Education Support Draft 2 Validation

CHC30219 Certificate III in Education Support Draft 2 August 19

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Qualification description & entry requirements

QUALIFICATION CODE

CHC30219

QUALIFICATION TITLE

Certificate III in Education Support

QUALIFICATION DESCRIPTION

This qualification reflects the role of workers who assist teachers and support student learning in a range of classroom settings. They complete general administrative as well as operational tasks and support students with learning under the guidance of a teacher or other educational professional. Work requires use of discretion and judgement within the boundaries of established policies and procedures.

 

Education support workers work mainly in classroom settings in schools with children aged between five and 18 years, but may also work in other education settings within the community.

 

No licensing, legislative or certification requirements apply to this qualification at the time of publication.

ENTRY REQUIREMENTS

There are no entry requirements for this qualification.

9 Comments

QUALIFICATION DESCRIPTION

"This statement ‘general administrative as well as operational tasks’ needs more definition regarding that this is part of the role, but not the core function of the role. The stipulation of the age requirements makes it very clear that no kindergarten environments are acceptable. This is a change for Victoria. Tafe allow kindergarten settings. In fact the Victorian curriculum has this stage on their web page. (DB)"

Michael Griffiths 11.09.2019 11.08AM

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Age range

"I like that the age range has been extended to 18 years - rather than just yr 10, but why has the Kindy year been left out? Many EA's will be working in Kindy with 4 year old students."

Fiona Taylor 28.08.2019 04.22PM

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First aid

"First aid "In response to the first aid question as a unit - certainly as an elective but not a core. Similar to aged care, most schools do not want qualified first aid support workers to be administering first aid to students as this can open a whole heap of legal issues. There are nurses at many schools or teachers who are paid to be the designated first aid responder. Whenever there are excursions, first aid is planned for and a person with advanced first aid or bronze medallion is made available. Finally, this unit can be argued to be applicable to every VET course in Australia for one reason for another - I think we should not lose sight of the fact that support workers' primary role, as per the research and what industry consistently says, is behaviour, disability, numeracy and literacy, as well as pedagogy/facilitation skills. Finally, most RTOs such as happens in ECEC, outsource this unit, which will make the course much more expensive - please remember that students in this area are 99% female and most already pay more than they can afford - many are single parents and are unemployed or underemployed. Schools are also happy to pay for staff that they select and want to hold first aid qualifications to attend a course through their preferred provider." "

Adam Green 20.08.2019 01.31PM

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"Agree, from our industry consultation, the majority of schools do not want prac students having first aid qualifications."

Rhianon Walters 28.08.2019 11.32AM

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Qualification description

"This is an accurate, clear and concise description. Much improved on the previous version. "

Brigette Hall 13.08.2019 01.10PM

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2 Replies

"Agree!"

Adam Green 20.08.2019 01.15PM

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"Yes, I agree, the qualification description is accurate, in fact I would say it’s spot on. I disagree with school experience needed as a pre-requisite for cert lV as in my opinion, it’s unnecessary and could be seen simply as revenue raising. The question is, how will they get experience in the school setting prior to enrolment in cert lV if it’s a prerequisite? "

Juanita Nanos 28.08.2019 09.43AM

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Entry Requirement

"I don't think Cert III should be an entry requirement, as long as there has been student support experience in a classroom previously. I think entry in the Cert IV needs to be with the pre-requisite of experience with students and within a school setting."

Sue McElroy 09.08.2019 10.43AM

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1 Reply

"Disagree as per comments in the ES4 page."

Adam Green 20.08.2019 01.15PM

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Packaging rules

PACKAGING RULES

Total number of units = 15

  • 10 core units
  • 5 elective units, consisting of:
    • at least 3 units from the list below
    • up to 2 units from the list below, elsewhere in the CHC Training Package, or any other current Training Package or accredited course.

 

To achieve this qualification, the individual must have completed a total of least 100 hours of work in a classroom environment catering to children between the ages of five and 18 years, within at least one educational organisation in Australia. The total number of hours may be applied collectively across all units of competency that include the requirement for workplace hours.

 

The selection of electives chosen must be guided by the job outcome sought, local industry requirements and the complexity of skills appropriate to the AQF level of this qualification.

4 Comments

Packaging rules

"Assessment conditions on most units State ‘ implementation of classroom programs must be directly observed by the assessor on at least one occasion. I feel this is not realistic for any RTO or schools There are opportunities to achieve these through simulations or role plays. "

Michael Griffiths 11.09.2019 11.12AM

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2 Replies

"Absolutely agree!"

Andrew Wales 11.09.2019 11.16AM

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"Agreed. Furthermore, there are many technological methods that can be used instead. We need to consider rural students as well as the cost of an assessor visiting students multiple times. This needs to considered or the cost of courses will be prohibitive."

Anna Hannouche 11.09.2019 11.52AM

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Electives

"I would prefer to see 18 units and not a decrease."

Adam Green 20.08.2019 01.16PM

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Core units

CORE UNITS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Core Units

CHCDIV001

Work with diverse people

CHCEDS033

Meet legal and ethical obligations in an education support environment

CHCEDS034

Contribute to the planning and implementation of educational programs

CHCEDS035

Contribute to student education in all developmental domains

CHCEDS036

Support the development of literacy and oral language skills

CHCEDS037

Support the development of numeracy skills

CHCEDS060

Work effectively with students and colleagues

CHCEDS059

Contribute to the health, safety and wellbeing of students

CHCEDS057

Support students with additional needs in the classroom environment

CHCEDS061

Support responsible student behaviour

 

15 Comments

Amount of Third Party Evidence

"The amount of third party evidence required for authentic assessment would put a HUGE amount of extra work on the Supervising Teacher. It is hard enough at the moment to find schools who will take our students. Especially in rural areas."

Andrew Wales 04.09.2019 10.03AM

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Work Place Assessment

"Many rural areas deliver both CIII & CIV through Blended Delivery resulting in students studying in areas spread across hundreds of Kilometres. Many of these RTO's do not have Assessors therefore Teachers would have to perform these direct observations. Teachers would be traveling vast distances for long periods of time having no one to teach the rest of their class. This combined with Performance Evidence being more Assessor direct observation would make it impossible to Assess the Course in line with the amount of proposed direct assessor observation in all units. Much of the Performance Evidence and Evidence Knowledge in all Units could be Assessed by Written Responses, research and Portfolio items. Third Party Reports and Observation Checklists signed by the Supervising Teacher should be authentic enough to meet the Unit requirements. "

Andrew Wales 27.08.2019 11.09AM

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Cert III EDS

"Great to see there is a unit covering student behaviour, i have found many doing their qualification are not prepared for handling students, having the various strategies they can use, have not had enough information on how to support."

Allison Rickard 21.08.2019 11.39AM

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Remove units

"Remove diversity unit and make elective. Diversity is embedded in all other units as students are working with a range of individuals to support them. They also cover many of the legal aspects in the ethics/legal unit so this unit is covered elsewhere in all aspects. As per previous comments we should concentrate on the core competencies of support workers (as you can see from all other comments here) which is behaviour, disability, numeracy, literacy and pedagogy."

Adam Green 20.08.2019 01.21PM

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"I agree. The diversity unit repeats what is already in numerous other core units, but without the benefit of being from an ed support angle. Diversity should be and already is included in many of the core units - why do we need to separate it out and repeat?"

Sandra Bushby 20.08.2019 09.33PM

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"I think a diversity unit should remain as a core. CHCDIV001 is an important unit and underlies the role. It is true that working with diverse colleagues and students is required to be demonstrated across all units in the course. However, I believe that an understanding and respect of a large range of diversity, the ability to understand your own perspectives and self-reflection, needs to be covered explicitly before a student can apply this throughout the rest of the course. It can’t be assumed that students enter the course with an understanding of diversity and the value it brings. "

Brigette Hall 21.08.2019 09.58AM

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"With all due respect, you are confusing what you want and your beliefs, with what industry, graduates and students consistently tell us that they want - we are here as a voice for the industry and to provide graduates to industry based on what industry needs. Industry wants graduates with skills in behaviour management (always ranks number 1), disability, numeracy, literacy and facilitation skills. Sometimes they also want technological skills (which is absent by and large), teamwork and other soft skills but never do industry ask for diversity training especially in the manner in which these units are written which is all about self-reflection and unconscious bias etc. Also, the evidence from academic researchers around the globe clearly shows that diversity training is very ineffective despite the cries of those who make a career out of it. Sorry but our cross-sector consultation activities consistently put this topic at the very bottom."

Adam Green 21.08.2019 10.12AM

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"Yes, I agree the principles and strategies that are addressed in diversity are in fact covered in other areas repeatedly. "

Juanita Nanos 28.08.2019 09.56AM

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"I agree Adam."

Andrew Wales 02.09.2019 02.16PM

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cert 111 education support

"majority of students in the ed support 111 course prefer to do units relating to Autism-as this is only offered in the cert IV . As Autism is quite high with students in schools it would be beneficial to see a unit in the cert 111's course offered."

liz buckley 12.08.2019 09.35AM

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2 Replies

"You could choose it as an elective. Industry sees ES3 as the intro course for mainstream in which case ASD isn't really that central to their work, at least in my experience."

Adam Green 20.08.2019 01.18PM

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"I agree. Most of my cert III students work with children on the spectrum during work placement. "

Sandra Bushby 20.08.2019 09.43PM

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Core units

"The core units reflect what is required to support children of varying needs in a classroom. Great to see some units for additional needs and behavioural aspects."

Jeanette Sticker 09.08.2019 12.46PM

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"Absolutely Jeanette"

Andrew Wales 02.09.2019 02.17PM

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Core Units

"This grouping of Core units makes sense now. I am thankful you have heard and responded to the feedback given, this selection of Core units better describe the work that is undertaken by support workers - and they are all crying out (along with their teachers) how to support students with additional and behavioural needs. These units will certainly contribute at the foundational stages of becoming a support worker. Thank you."

Sue McElroy 09.08.2019 10.39AM

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ELECTIVE UNITS

Elective Units

CHCDIS007

Facilitate the empowerment of people with disability

CHCECE054

Promote understanding of Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander cultures

CHCEDS038

Communicate in an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander language

CHCEDS039

Work effectively as an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander education worker

CHCEDS040

Search and assess online information

CHCEDS041

Set up and sustain learning areas

CHCEDS042

Provide support for e-learning

CHCEDS043

Support students with English as an additional language

CHCEDS044

Support development of student research skills

CHCEDS048

Work with students in need of additional learning support

CHCEDS050

Support Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander education

CHCPRT001

Identify and respond to children and young people at risk

HLTAID004

Provide an emergency first aid response in an education and care setting

HLTWHS001

Participate in workplace health and safety

 

QUALIFICATION MAPPING INFORMATION

No equivalent qualification.

LINKS

Companion Volume Implementation Guide:

11 Comments

Amount of Third Party Evidence

"The amount of third party evidence required for authentic assessment would put a HUGE amount of extra work on the Supervising Teacher. It is hard enough at the moment to find schools who will take our students. Especially in rural areas."

Andrew Wales 04.09.2019 10.04AM

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Work Place Assessment

"Many rural areas deliver both CIII & CIV through Blended Delivery resulting in students studying in areas spread across hundreds of Kilometres. Many of these RTO's do not have Assessors therefore Teachers would have to perform these direct observations. Teachers would be traveling vast distances for long periods of time having no one to teach the rest of their class. This combined with Performance Evidence being more Assessor direct observation would make it impossible to Assess the Course in line with the amount of proposed direct assessor observation in all units. Much of the Performance Evidence and Evidence Knowledge in all Units could be Assessed by Written Responses, research and Portfolio items. Third Party Reports and Observation Checklists signed by the Supervising Teacher should be authentic enough to meet the Unit requirements. "

Andrew Wales 27.08.2019 11.11AM

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"Agreed. There are many technological methods that can be used instead. We need to consider rural students as well as the cost of an assessor visiting students multiple times. This needs to considered or the cost of courses will be prohibitive."

Anna Hannouche 11.09.2019 11.54AM

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Equivalence

"I understand that the new qualification CHC30219 itself will not be deemed equivalent to the existing qualification CHC30213. On a qualification level this makes sense. However for the individual units where the changes are only minor, relating to the clarity of wording, I would expect and hope that these new units are deemed equivalent to the existing ones. The concept of equivalence is significant factor which I believe must be taken into account. If similar units are not deemed equivalent then this creates extreme challenges for students moving from the current course to the new one. This is especially challenging for online students who do not attend face to face classes and study at their own pace. This also proposes challenges for lecturers who face severe scrutiny if they do not continuously upgrade to the new qualification. "

Bernadette McMullan 23.08.2019 11.30AM

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Autism - Evidence-based Practice

"With the increased prevalence of Autism, it would be useful (if not essential) to address the learning needs of SLSOs in this area. At this stage, there are no units dedicated to learning about supporting students with Autism in either the core or elective components. Instead, there are 4 Elective units dedicated to learning about supporting Indigenous students. In addition, there is another Elective unit dedicated to supporting students with English as a second language. Whilst both of the latter areas are very important, research indicates that today's SLSO is much more likely to be supporting a number of students with autism (diagnosed or otherwise) in the mainstream classroom. It is suggested that our Cert III students at least have the opportunity to enrol in an elective to develop their abilities to support students with Autism using evidence-based practice. At this point in time, the CEO Sydney (Catholic schools) requires all SLSOs to have a Cert III for employment. These additional mandatory requirements have resulted in increased enrolments in the Cert III. It is suggested that many SLSOs may not acquire the Cert IV (or learn about supporting students with Autism) unless it becomes a mandatory requirement. It is recommended that an autism unit be included in either the Core units or Elective units for Cert III. "

Franki Ford 12.08.2019 12.35PM

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"Agree - could be an elective here but I am not supportive of it being a core even in Cert IV."

Adam Green 20.08.2019 01.23PM

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"Thanks Adam, it would be great if you could provide a few pointers as to why you feel this way."

Franki Ford 21.08.2019 08.29AM

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CHCECE054

"This unit in essence is great and looks to replace CHCDIV002. It does however have inherent problems with the assessment requirements when placed within the CIII Education Support. I can see for example in the unit description the "This unit applies to all educators who work in children’s education and care services". This does not apply to all of CIII Ed Support students and therefore has the following problems imbedded in the requirements which cannot be met in assessment for students working across the 5 - 18 year range as described correctly in the CIII Ed Support course description: KNOWLEDGE EVIDENCE: ◾requirements of the following National Quality Standard(s) ; Aboriginal and/or Torres Strait Islander perspectives on early childhood learning and development. FOUNDATION SKILLS- reading: ◾interpret the learning framework. The field of Ed Support requires a version of this unit that is suitable for the school setting in its content and assessment requirements as this version of the ECE unit has problems when placed in an Ed Support qualification. "

Brigette Hall 12.08.2019 09.39AM

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Adam Green 20.08.2019 01.25PM

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CHCECE054

"Finally someone has listened and written a unit that addresses Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander culture in a culturally safe way!"

Jeanette Sticker 09.08.2019 12.48PM

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"So true Jeanette. Glad previous feedback has been taken on board. "

Anna Hannouche 11.09.2019 10.19AM

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